Marijuana Smoker

Wow. Totally over thinking things. It all depends on what's in the clients medical records. Client is still young and if no health issues, client should stay clean for a month and then schedule the medical. You can still submit the application now. Client should NOT take the medical if he didn't stay clean for a month. Each carrier tests for different narcotics and some don't even test for pot. Better to be safe than sorry.

Unfortunately, the federal laws in the US state pot is illegal. This forces the client's hand to lie. Admitting marijuana smoking on any legal document is risky, at best. Yes, carriers offer coverage for pot smokers, but then it is in the MIB and tied to the client for life.

Make sure the client is clean, apply without disclosing and proceed as usual.

The government did this, not the carriers, but knowing the ramifications of admitting illegal affairs is crucial. If a client goes through a divorce and the spouse knows their insurance allowed for marijuana smoking, the spouse can use this to take their kids. I've seen it happen.

If they smoke cigarettes, they are going to get smoker rates anyway.

Don't risk your client's future by admitting marijuana use.

I have a plenty of clients who do their fair share of partying. I tell my clients when signing the applications:
Do not to make any doctor's appointments until after we are offered a policy.
The week prior to your medical, avoid red meat and alcohol and drink a lot of water.
If they are drug users, I tell them I am going to make their medical appointment for a month from today, refrain from any drug use until after the medical exam.
What's also good, is that medical will still be useful, if the carrier applied to doesn't offer the best rate. You get new apps and use that same medical for the new carrier. No need to have your client quit again.

Good Luck! (and hey, if they can do it, and it's not in their records, tell them to not smoke cigarettes for the month either, say he smokes an occasional cigar and hope for no nicotine in the urine, to get a NS rate through a company like Lincoln)
 
If they are drug users, I tell them I am going to make their medical appointment for a month from today, refrain from any drug use until after the medical exam.

so you lie on the agent reports to get this done..................
 
Don't risk your client's future by admitting marijuana use.

You're right...you're better off risking your future by advising your clients to commit insurance fraud. You have got to be kidding me. I guess you see the application as just some type of general framework vs. a legally binding part of the policy?
 
Wow. Totally over thinking things. It all depends on what's in the clients medical records. Client is still young and if no health issues, client should stay clean for a month and then schedule the medical. You can still submit the application now. Client should NOT take the medical if he didn't stay clean for a month. Each carrier tests for different narcotics and some don't even test for pot. Better to be safe than sorry.

Unfortunately, the federal laws in the US state pot is illegal. This forces the client's hand to lie. Admitting marijuana smoking on any legal document is risky, at best. Yes, carriers offer coverage for pot smokers, but then it is in the MIB and tied to the client for life.

Make sure the client is clean, apply without disclosing and proceed as usual.

The government did this, not the carriers, but knowing the ramifications of admitting illegal affairs is crucial. If a client goes through a divorce and the spouse knows their insurance allowed for marijuana smoking, the spouse can use this to take their kids. I've seen it happen.

If they smoke cigarettes, they are going to get smoker rates anyway.

Don't risk your client's future by admitting marijuana use.

I have a plenty of clients who do their fair share of partying. I tell my clients when signing the applications:
Do not to make any doctor's appointments until after we are offered a policy.
The week prior to your medical, avoid red meat and alcohol and drink a lot of water.
If they are drug users, I tell them I am going to make their medical appointment for a month from today, refrain from any drug use until after the medical exam.
What's also good, is that medical will still be useful, if the carrier applied to doesn't offer the best rate. You get new apps and use that same medical for the new carrier. No need to have your client quit again.

Good Luck! (and hey, if they can do it, and it's not in their records, tell them to not smoke cigarettes for the month either, say he smokes an occasional cigar and hope for no nicotine in the urine, to get a NS rate through a company like Lincoln)


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Wow. Totally over thinking things. It all depends on what's in the clients medical records. Client is still young and if no health issues, client should stay clean for a month and then schedule the medical. You can still submit the application now. Client should NOT take the medical if he didn't stay clean for a month. Each carrier tests for different narcotics and some don't even test for pot. Better to be safe than sorry.

Unfortunately, the federal laws in the US state pot is illegal. This forces the client's hand to lie. Admitting marijuana smoking on any legal document is risky, at best. Yes, carriers offer coverage for pot smokers, but then it is in the MIB and tied to the client for life.

Make sure the client is clean, apply without disclosing and proceed as usual.

The government did this, not the carriers, but knowing the ramifications of admitting illegal affairs is crucial. If a client goes through a divorce and the spouse knows their insurance allowed for marijuana smoking, the spouse can use this to take their kids. I've seen it happen.

If they smoke cigarettes, they are going to get smoker rates anyway.

Don't risk your client's future by admitting marijuana use.

I have a plenty of clients who do their fair share of partying. I tell my clients when signing the applications:
Do not to make any doctor's appointments until after we are offered a policy.
The week prior to your medical, avoid red meat and alcohol and drink a lot of water.
If they are drug users, I tell them I am going to make their medical appointment for a month from today, refrain from any drug use until after the medical exam.
What's also good, is that medical will still be useful, if the carrier applied to doesn't offer the best rate. You get new apps and use that same medical for the new carrier. No need to have your client quit again.

Good Luck! (and hey, if they can do it, and it's not in their records, tell them to not smoke cigarettes for the month either, say he smokes an occasional cigar and hope for no nicotine in the urine, to get a NS rate through a company like Lincoln)

Wow .. an unbelievable advice especially on the biggest public forum ..
 
You're right...you're better off risking your future by advising your clients to commit insurance fraud. You have got to be kidding me. I guess you see the application as just some type of general framework vs. a legally binding part of the policy?

I have to agree with you here. I'm not doing it. I'm not putting my neck and my license on the line just to get a fraudulent sale. I like to be able to sleep at night thank you.

I had an FMO advise me the other day on moving some annuity money. I was in a sticky situation that I had never been in before. I was told "agents do it everyday". F that man. I knew something was sketchy I just couldn't put my finger on it.

The best advice I heard yet was Foresters from JD so long as he is correct. If you smoke pot, chances are the government already knows about it and if they don't now they will in a matter of years the way this country is going.
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Wow .. an unbelievable advice especially on the biggest public forum ..

I agree man. :swoon:
 
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I have to agree with you here. I'm not doing it. I'm not putting my neck and my license on the line just to get a fraudulent sale. I like to be able to sleep at night thank you.

I had an FMO advise me the other day on moving some annuity money. I was in a sticky situation that I had never been in before. I was told "agents do it everyday". F that man. I knew something was sketchy I just couldn't put my finger on it.

The best advice I heard yet was Foresters from JD so long as he is correct. If you smoke pot, chances are the government already knows about it and if they don't now they will in a matter of years the way this country is going.
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I agree man. :swoon:

No insurance company is going to send the app to the government.

Let's this about this for a minute. Whitney Houston just passed away. Everyone knew she was a drug addict. When was the last time she was arrested?

Unless you do something stupid and come across a cop's radar, no one is busting you for smoking pot.
 
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